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Lakes Committee Draft Minutes of Meeting - 3/26/11
Chair: Tim Jeffers
Members: Larry Garlasco, Al Kramer, Bob Kravitz, Arnie Milidantri, Judy Restaino
Board: John Barcarola, Bill Brenner
Guests: Stanley Conklin, Ed Garrison
Excused: Kevin Clancy, Bob Dehl, Charlie Durkin, K. Greenfeld.
The meeting was called to order at 9:05 AM. L. Garlasco moved to accept the minutes as corrected with a second by A. Kramer.
OLD BUSINESS:
1. Recreation:
Catch and Release Policy: The motion made by the Lakes Committee to strictly enforce a Catch and Release Policy was for game fish only, but that motion had not yet been submitted to the Board. The Board passed the motion restricting the removal of any fish. B. Brenner explained that our Security doesn’t have as much authority as Fish and Game does, and the rule will be difficult to enforce if some fish are allowed to be kept. He suggested buying video cameras to help enforcement.
Boat Parade: Ways to improve the Boat Parade were discussed. B. Kravetz said that there used to be three categories (pontoons, PWCs, and runabouts), and there was more participation. It was also suggested that kayaks might want to join the parade. A. Milidantri suggested that there be a panel of judges instead of audience judging. J. Restaino volunteered to meet with N. Jorgensen to discuss these ideas. Committee members should send suggestions for themes to J. Restaino. L. Garlasco suggested that since it’s a patriotic holiday, we should have a patriotic theme.
North Beach: S. Conklin asked if the Hideout plans to fix North Beach for swimming. The dredging project was supposed to deepen that area but it didn’t get done because of the weather. A.Milidantri wondered whether it would be possible to extend the swimming area so that it is deeper. Perhaps a swimming lane could be added in the deeper area. J. Restaino will discuss these issues at her meeting with N. Jorgensen.
S. Conklin also inquired as to why we are not stocking walleye. B. Kravetz stated that we can request stocking these fish, but no survey has been done as yet in Roamingwood, and we are trying to stock fish for the ecological aspect of the lake. B. Kravetz also stated that he is trying to start a fishing club which could make recommendations to the Lakes Committee, record what the club catches, and run tournaments. A. Milidantri suggested having a “pan fish day” for kids. About 80 fish habitats will be put into the lake this year.
2. Security:
B. Brenner will take the motion which this committee made on February 26, 2011, about more stringent enforcement of Hideout rules on the lakes to the Security Committee. There is already a rule in the Protective Covenants concerning reckless operation of watercraft which includes a fine and a 3 month suspension of privileges for multiple infractions. There is a process going on now to update the rules and regulations.
3. Environmental:
Princeton Hydro: We have a budget in place with Princeton Hydro, and the Lakes Committee will act in an advisory capacity. We would like to be involved with contractors, under supervision and with the environmental manager, whenever possible.
B. Brenner informed the committee that at the last Board meeting, a contract with Nature Works was approved for the chemical and biological treatment of the lakes. The plan for the plantings for Tract 28 and Lot 852 north of Deerfield Lake is moving forward. Plants have been ordered, and seasonal help for doing the planting has been lined up. A. Kramer questioned how these plantings will be affected if the wetlands flood.
The MTD (manufactured treatment device) planned for the maintenance area is to prevent runoff of hazardous material.
A. Kramer questioned whether it is necessary as he feels that there is no runoff. B. Brenner suggested that he send an e-mail to R. Graf expressing that concern.
The question arose about who has ownership of maintaining the lake level and what we do to control the same level all winter.
NEW BUSINESS:
Plans for 2012: Money was put aside for the scraping of Roamingwood, and since only about 3000 cubic yards were removed instead of 10,000, we would like the money put into the 2012 budget to complete the job.
North Beach: From a recreational point of view, North Beach needs to be dredged. J. Barcarola spoke to D. Kiely and stated that this is a continuation of a project so that it should be carried over and put into the budget for 2012.
Engineer Givler has been working on Deerfield and Brooks dams’ permits. When that is done, we’ll know what has to be done to the spillway in Deerfield.
The following items are on the reserves list: silt removal, fish stocking, fish studies, dam valve, wetland plant replenishments, floating island, MTD, shoreline maintenance. On the operational maintenance list are cutting and removing grasses from wetlands, CleanFlo, and weir maintenance. A. Kramer asked who the responsible party for maintaining the CleanFlo system is since Lakesavers is no longer on board. B. Brenner assured him that there is money in the budget for it.
The next meeting will be on April 30.
The meeting was adjourned at 12:00 with a motion by B. Kravetz and a second by A. Kramer.
Respectfully submitted,
Judy Restaino
Lake Committee Minutes Meeting (Draft) - 1/29/11
Members: Kevin Clancy, Al Kramer,
Judy Restaino
Guests: Ed Garrison, Brad Portenoy
Staff: Ralph Graf, Nicole Jorgensen
Excused: Bob Dehl, Larry Garlasco,
Karen Greenfeld, Charlie Durkin,
Bob Kravetz, Arnie Milidantri
The meeting was called to order at 9:05 AM. The minutes were approved as written with a motion by K. Clancy and a second by A. Kramer.
Recreation Items: Review of Marina slip wait policy. Nicole Jorgensen explained the current policy, in effect for a number of years, that once you are granted a boat slip, you may keep it for as long as you own your home. Since there are many people on the wait list and it usually takes several years for a person to get a slip, there has been some discussion about whether or not the policy should be changed. R. Graf explained that many people who now have their boats in slips at the marina do not own trailers and bought boats thinking that they would have these slips for life. A discussion ensued, and then a motion was made by K. Clancy and seconded by J. Restaino that “the Lakes Committee recommends keeping the present process for marina slips but suggests raising the rates because of supply and demand and charging a $100.00 deposit to those putting their names on the wait list.”
OLD BUSINESS:
1. Environmental: Because B. Taggart is no longer employed by The Hideout, R. Graf spoke to the committee about the process of hiring a new Environmental Manager. Applications have been received, and
B. Brenner and A. Milidantri will be involved in the process. They are looking for someone with a concentration on construction management. R. Graf has spoken to Hawk Engineering and Princeton Hydro to see if they know of anyone who might be interested. T. Jeffers suggested they check with Brian Orem.
Princeton Hydro Update: The weather has caused a big problem for the dredging project. The plan was to remove 10,000 cubic yards of sediment from the coves and North Beach, and Pioneer Construction was only able to remove 3000 cubic yards from Getaway cove.
R. Graf still hopes to have some sediment removed from North Beach. All of the sediment will go to Maiocco instead of Aspen Point. It will take seven to ten days to remove it from our property. Since there was $200,000 in the budget for sediment removal and only about $125,000 was used, the excess should go into lake management. T. Jeffers stated that he feels that we should have this in a reserve fund for the future.
R. Graf will be the intermediary for the time being between The Hideout and Princeton Hydro. The Board approved a contract of $162,000 with them. The Board has a high regard for Fred Lubnow of Princeton Hydro and feels we need to rely on him as the expert. He recommends an update of the Clean Flo system. The Board also wants to talk to him about whether or not he feels we should continue with Lakesavers. A. Kramer requested that when there are meetings with Princeton Hydro, members of the Lake Committee should be included since this committee was instrumental in finding and choosing Princeton Hydro.
A discussion ensued about the hiring of the new Environmental Manager, and
K. Clancy emphasized that we need to hire someone with experience.
2. Public Works: T. Jeffers will ask R. Graf about the following projects which were not discussed at this meeting: shoreline cleanup, Deerfield drawdown, valve in Deerfield, modification of Deerfield spillway, feeder pipe for ski hill, Getaway boat ramp, Holiday Park parking, and water quality treatment.
T. Jeffers will also write a letter to the Board thanking them for approving the Princeton Hydro contract and informing them that this committee wishes to be proactive and consulted about any matters pertaining to the lakes. The committee would like to have representation from management at our February meeting.
The next meeting will be on February 26.
The meeting was adjourned at 11:25.
Respectfully submitted,
Judy Restaino
