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Campground Committee
Minutes
CAMPING AT THE HIDEOUT - available through October 31.
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Campground Committee Draft Minutes – May 24, 2008
The meeting was called to order at 9:10am by Don DiBello, co-chairman. The following members were in attendance: John Ellicott, Barbara Staum, Bertie Keels, Joe Staum, John Keels, Jr, Joan DiBello, Jack Shields, Terry Shields, John Carven, Jeanne Carven, Don DiBello. Hideout Staff: Scott Patterson, Jeff Sias.
Old Business: 1. Building- Members asked why the building was taken down now and not at the end of the summer. Scott explained that once they started to try and repair the building they found out it was not repairable. It has to be taken down. Jeff Sias showed us the plans for the new building to be built on the footprint of the old building. Members looked at the plans and had questions concerning the sewer and water lines. All the electric, sewer and water will have new services. Scott and Jeff were both hopeful that the building would be completed by July 15, 2008. The committee members hope that a clause can be put in the building contract stating the date of completion and if it is not completed in time, the builder will be assessed a penalty.
The members expressed concern that without the building many week-end users will not use the facility.
Garbage Can–committee requested the garbage cans be placed by building footprint.
Port-a-Potty – There is no hand sanitizer in either facility. Committee requested that the Hideout request that the Port-a-potty company place one in each facility. The committee questioned whether these facilities are in compliance with the Federal HIPPA codes.
2. Waters – there have been numerous breaks and repairs. During the winter a large amount of brass fitting were stolen from the system. The fittings have been replaced by plastic fittings.
3. Registration- All the pads had been re-numbered with a new wooden sign. Under the sign there is a place to put a sheet from registration designating the type of registration at the site. Security will now be able to check each site and observe its status; permanent, daily or week-end.
4. Electric- site #7 needs electrical plugs.
5. Rules – The Board had adopted most of the new rules we submitted. A camper in good standing is now allowed to have two trailers on a permanent site.
New Business: 1. Landscaping – The committee thanked Scott for all his endeavors in the beautification of the driveway entrance.
2. Members questioned Scott about the Registration rule requiring the registration of the trailers. Almost no one who has a permanent site has ever had or plans to have their trailer on the road. Thus, registration for the trailer is superfluous. Scott said it was the rule. If your trailer is not registered, a letter needs to be sent to the Hideout Manager explaining the situation.
3. Memorial- At our next meeting we will decide where the Committee wants the Memorial placed for Cathy Vitale. We will then discuss this with Scott and probably do a ceremony during the Labor Day week-end.
Meeting was adjourned.
Respectfully submitted, Joan DiBello, Sec.
NEXT MEETING – JULY 5TH – 9:15am
Campground Committee Draft Minutes – September 1
The meeting was called to order at 9:25 am.
The following members were in attendance:
Jack Shields, Terry Shields, Barbara Staum,
John Ellicott, Bertie Keels, Joe Staum,
John Keels, Jr, Don DiBello, Mary Ann Sparkowski, Joan DiBello, Ed Sparkowski.
Representing the Hideout:
Ralph Graf - Community Manager
Joe Kozuck – Security Director
Scott Patterson, Maintenance Director
The minutes of the previous meeting were accepted.
Old Business:
1. Building – Scott reported the following concerning the building
1. The drawing for the permits was
submitted. The permits should be received next week for the new roof and siding.
2. During the winter the interior of the building will be gutted and fixtures will be replaced. Handicapped toilets will be placed in each bathroom; thus reducing the number of stalls. New showers and plumbing will be installed.
3. One unnecessary shed has already been removed.
4. Drainage within and around the building will be addressed.
2. Water – Leaks have been repaired. The committee requested that Scott try and arrange for water to be brought down to the tent area. It is a Safety hazard and not convenient to have the water only available at the
bath house.
3. Dog Run – the signs that direct traffic around the building appear to have been successful.
4. Traffic Flow- will be maintained at the present direction.
5. Insurance – Ralph stated that the Hideout is still waiting to hear from their insurance broker concerning this issue.
6. Registration – The Registration process is being discussed by the Board.
7. Fines – Ralph stated that the costs of the fines are determined by the rules & regulations of the Hideout.
8. Budget – Scott stated that he has requested funds for the upkeep of the area.
9. Rules - the sub-committee has reported back to the Committee. We will review the rules and then submit them to Scott for his review.
New Business:
1. Pad 39, 40, 41 had no water on the sites. A guest trailer was assigned one of the pads and could not hook up to water on any of these sites. The trailer went to an empty site that had water & electric hook-ups. The Committee requested that Scott look into this matter.
2. Meeting schedule for 2008 – May 24th, July 5th, August 2nd, August 30th.
3. Election of officers:
Co-chairman- Don DiBello, John Elicott
Secretary – Joan DiBello
4. Picnic is scheduled for 4:00 this afternoon.
5. John Ellicott had ordered a plaque in memory of Kathy Vitale. Anyone who would like to make a contribution should see John. Next year we would like to invite the children and have a small memorial celebration.
The meeting was adjourned at 10:45 am.
Respectfully submitted
Joan DiBello, Secretary
Campground Minutes - August 4, 2007
The meeting was called to order by Don DiBello, co-chairman at 9:20 am.
The following members were in attendance:
Jack Shields, John Ellicott, Terry Shields, Bertie Keels, John Keels, Jr., Joan DiBello, Don DiBello.
Representing the Hideout: No one was available. The minutes of the previous meeting was accepted.
Old Business:
1. Building – The committee has not heard of any progress towards its renovation. The bathrooms are clean, but spider webs and dust are beginning to accumulate around the inside of the doors. There is no light in front of the door to the laundry room. At night it is dark at that corner of the building. If a sensor light was put there, it would not have to be on all night.
After every heavy rainfall water ponds in the men’s room. The water just stays there until it dries. This is unsanitary and the water should be moped up. To help alleviate this problem, the water coming off the upper field needs to be diverted away from the building. One possible solution is to build a lip of macadam around the edge of the driveway going around the top of the building. The water will then be directed to run along the driveway and around the sides of the building.
2. Water – Several leaks have been repaired. There is still no water available at the tent sites. This could be a dangerous situation for tenters’ and the recreation department who has the Thursday, Campfire there.
3. Dog run- The signs have been put up changing the direction of the traffic around the building. The change in traffic pattern has slowed the vehicles and hopefully stopped any future accident from happening. The campers also request that a sign be put within the Campgrounds. Reminding everyone that dogs are not allowed to run loose within the grounds. On several occasions it has been noted that two German Shepard’s have been allowed to run loose outside the bath area.
4. Direction of traffic. Everyone has an idea concerning the directional changes, but they include some two way traffic and/or the creation of a small parallel road.
5. Insurance- no one was available to discuss the situation.
6. Motor Vehicle registration- a clarification is requested before next year. The committee would like to meet and have clarification concerning insurance and registration. About 5 years ago, we lost over 5 campers because of these issues. We do not want anyone else denied an opportunity to use the Campgrounds over rule clarification or sell their property over this issue.
New Business:
1. Fees - Who set the fees for these violations? The fee schedule appears to be very high. Some things take time especially when you are not on site and your are dealing with the state.
2. Budget- unable to discuss what was requested.
3. Rules. - The sub-committee has reported back to the Committee their suggestions for all to review. The members are continuing to discuss their suggestions and ideas and would like to talk to Scott or Gerri concerning the Hideout’s suggestions and ideas.
4. Storage rules – What is the storage rule concerning a storage trailer parking in a permanent site? Management should know if a trailer is going to the permanent site to charge the battery and fill up the holding tank. Maybe one specific site in storage could be designated for this use.
5. The Campground picnic is scheduled for Saturday, Sept.1, 2007 at 4:00pm weather permitting. Scott will be contacted to review all the items needed for the picnic. All campers will be welcome. John will put signs around the Campgrounds notifying all the campers about the picnic and the next meeting.
Jack Shields motioned that the meeting be adjourned. John Ellicott second the motion. The meeting was adjourned at 10:00am
Respectfully submitted,
Joan DiBello, Secretary
The Hideout Campground Meeting Draft Minutes - May 27, 2007
The meeting was called to order at 9:15am by Don DiBello, Co-chairman. The following members were in attendance:
Jack Shields Terry Shields
John Keels, Jr Bertie Keels
Domingo Perez John Ellicott
Kathy Vitale Don DiBello
Joan DiBello John Carver
Jeanne Carver
Representing the Hideout:
Ralph Graf. Administrator Scott Patterson, Maintenance
Joe Kozuch, Security Jeri Celetti, Registration
The minutes of the previous meeting were accepted.
Old Business:
1. Building – The money has been allocated for repair of the building which will begin after Memorial Day. Scott plans to start
with a new roof, side the outside and begin work on the interior of the building. It was mentioned that the water pressure is very low in the building and that many of the showers do not work properly.
2. Dangerous situations – Fencing has been placed around all the dangerous culverts. The wood pallet near the main entrance road is also to be fenced. If any water breaks should occur, Scott would like to be notified as soon as the leak is discovered.
3. Dog Run- One way signs will be posted around the building to safely facilitate the flow of traffic. At the present time, the
users of the park go up and down the same road, eventually someone may collide.
4. Trenching – The driveway entrance becomes dangerous after it rains. Stones roll down in front of the driveway causing the wheels of cars to slip. To fix this problem, the future plan is to trench under the driveway so that the water runoff will not deposit the material on the driveway.
5. Non-payment of sites- Letters were sent by the Hideout to delinquent members who have not paid nor removed their trailers.
Trailers of the members who did not respond have been removed to the old storage site. The members will be issued citations and eventually; if they do not respond, the trailers will be removed from the Hideout.
New Business:
1. Scott Patterson announced that the Maintenance Department will now be in charge of the maintenance of the Campgrounds. Below are some of the things that Scott has done or trying to do.
• Electric - all the old overhead electric lines and poles have been removed. In the future, each site will also have new electric plugs consistent with trailer use.
• Re-doing of the storage sites. Scott has removed some sites and restored others.
• Tent area- All trailer sites within the tent area have been removed and graded. Scott hopes to include other sites closer to the
bathhouse for the tents. Temporarily, water has been shut off to the area. A temporary situation will be set up for this week-end because a large group is expected.
• Security – Security will now have records of any daily or weekly rentals. They will now check to see if individuals are actually
registered.
• Faucets –Faucets are being replaced as needed. In time all the faucets will be replaced.
• Roads – At present, gravel has been put down to cover all the holes. The future plan is to have the roads tar & chipped.
Directions – Scott is taking suggestions on directional changes for our roads. All input is welcome.
• Bathrooms – The housekeeping department will be in charge of cleaning them. They will be cleaned in the morning and afternoons just as the rest of the Hideout.
• Grounds & Rounds – They will be responsible for cutting the grass weekly.
2. Old Storage area - Temporarily it is being used to keep the trailers pulled out for non-payment. Once the disposition of these
trailers is decided, they will be removed.
3. Registration- Geri Celetti is in charge of the registration process. Geri was present at the meeting and explained the new
registration procedure. Any trailer or tent coming in daily will need to register with Registration. Registration will give the
individual a packet that contains a hanging pass for the car and the trailer (tent), copy of the rules and keys. A $20.00 deposit will be needed for the keys. This money will be given back when the keys are returned.
4. Insurance – The Hideout is again enforcing the Insurance rule of $300.00.00 for all users of the Hideout Campgrounds. The committee is again requesting that the Board re-think this policy. The trailers in the Hideout are travel trailers.
1. Trailer insurance companies will not insure them for this amount of money.
2. Some homeowner’s policies will cover a trailer and others will not.
3. Car insurance policies technically are only covering trailers under tow. Some campers cannot get insurance at all. Their trailers are so old they do not have serial numbers; therefore, these trailers cannot be registered or insured.
5. The laundry room and gates should both be opened at 6:00am.
6. Annual picnic – September 1st at 4:00pm.
The meeting was adjourned at 10:37am.
Respectfully submitted
Joan DiBello, Secretary
Laurel Park Campground Meeting - September 2, 2006
The meeting was called to order at 9:15am by Co-Chairman Don DiBello.
The following were in attendance:
Jack Shields, Terry Shields, John Ellicott, Bertie Keels, John Keels, Kathy Vitale, Craig Sandberg, Patti Sandberg, Marianne Sparkowski, Edward Sparkowski, Joan DiBello, and Don DiBello.
Representing the Hideout: Mike Franquiz,
Ralph Graf, and Joe Kozuch.
The minutes of the August 5, 2006 meeting were accepted.
Old Business: Building- Ralph spoke to us quickly before leaving for a meeting. He stated that he had requested money be placed in the Campground Budget to overhaul the Bathhouse. The campground committee hopes that the Board and Budget Committee also agrees to allot this money for the Building.
Dangerous areas noted within the Campgrounds; Inlet in front of the Bath House. The wood pallet can be tripped over by a child. A permanent and safer cover should be used. Branches over the trailer sites should be cut down. The light bulb over the doorway to the washing machines is broken. A sensor light could replace the light over the shed. This would save energy.
Dog Run - Members are speeding up the dirt road. Upon leaving the site, members are exiting straight down the dirt road on the right side of the building. These members are going against the flow of traffic. The traffic pattern is up on the right side of the building and down on the left side of the building. The parking spaces in front of the building were made in compliance with this pattern. Someday we may have a head-on meeting of cars.
Driveway entrance – Stones have accumulated across the driveway entrance. When going out into traffic, cars skid on these stones creating a possible traffic hazard. A culvert could be placed under the driveway or some other plan used to eliminate the piling up of the stones.
A temporary or permanent covered area or facility needs to be placed near the Bath House for when we have activities at the Campgrounds. Participants in these activities would be able to stay out of the sun or the rain.
Picnic – because of the Hurricane the picnic was postponed to tomorrow at 2:00pm. Depending on the weather, the picnic will be at the Campgrounds or the Ski Hill.
New Business: Meeting dates for next year: May 26, 2007, July 7, 2007, August 7, 2007 and September 1, 2007
Election of officers: John Ellicott and Don DiBello – Co-Chairman; Joan DiBello – Secretary
Non-payment at permanent sites. Can the Hideout do anything about trailers that do not pay in storage or permanent sites. Can the fees be tacked onto their dues? Can we move them?
Tarps- A new rule pertaining to the use of tarps was presented. The new rule will state:
“On permanent sites NO TARPS will be allowed to cover trailers from Memorial Day until Labor Day. Only in cases of severe emergency may a tarp cover a trailer during this time period. This emergency tarp could only be used for a short period of time.”
The rule passed by a majority vote.
The meeting was adjourned at 10:00 am.
Respectfully submitted,
Joan DiBello, Secretary
Campground Committee Draft Minutes - August 5, 2006
The meeting was called to order at 9:15am by Don DiBello, Co-chairman. The following members were in attendance: Jack Shields, Terry Shields, Connie Richard, Kathy Vitale, John Ellicott, Don DiBello, Joan DiBello. Representing the Hideout: Mike Klein and Mike Franquiz
The minutes of June 30, 2006 were accepted.
Old Business: Bathrooms – Ceiling was painted white. The following still needs attention: Lighting-women’s room is still dark. Floor-Next season the floors need to be sanded, acid washed & painted. If the cost is not prohibited, maybe a tile made for the bathrooms can be used instead of paint. Showers-leaking. All plumbing needs to be updated. Toilets-replaced. Fans-ventilation is better with the outside vent. The interior fans need upgrading. Drainage-Storm run off above the building needs to be addressed. Storm water needs to be diverted from going under the walls during heavy rains. During these heavy rains the men’s bathroom floods (possible solution-a curb of asphalt to be placed around the radius of the building). Outside of the building-A roof, siding & gutters need to be installed in the fall after the drainage situation has been corrected. At the present time there is a bee’s nest above the front sign. Men’s room door does not close with the door check.
KEYS- Most long term campers have the new keys. The camper’s suggest that for everyone’s SECURITY: the building should remain locked. This facility is in a non-secure environment 12-16 hours per day. During this time the facility should be locked. Those with keys can access it at any time. During times of heavy usage; such as a picnic, car show, or flea market, the doors should be unlocked for everyone’s use. We think that the policy of leaving the doors unlocked during Holiday week-ends can continue. It is difficult passing keys to everyone if there are large groups of people camping. The Campers feel that this policy is designed for the SAFETY of EVERYONE. The building is very accessible from the road and many people from the area use the washers, dryers and the play area. If the bathroom does not remain locked, anyone using the facility will be fearful of what might be awaiting them in an unlocked building.
Roads- The pot holes should be filled and the stones on the main loop covered with cold patch. Tar and chipping the road later in the season will help maintain the roads integrity.
Campers – Can a procedure be set up to collect any delinquent payments or move the vehicles that have not paid for it use in the Campground?
Registration – More coordination should be set up between registration and security. The campers would like to discuss with Joe K a procedure by which security will check the vehicles to make sure all vehicles in the Campgrounds have proper identification. It still appears that some individuals come in camp & take off the next day.
Tent site F – The individual does not want to move. To protect the Hideout, maybe he should sign a waiver concerning any damages that might occur at that site. In the future, that site should be done away with and sites across the road should be upgraded so that a vehicle of that size can be accommodated. The site needs to be easily accessed, cleared of debris and have a stable pad.
New Business: 1. Trees – There are trees in the storage area that came down and are leaning on wires. For safety, they should be taken down and removed.
2. Dog Run-1. Cars have been going up the road to the Dog Run at an excessive speed. You can see the dust kicked up from the roadway as cars go up the road. Maybe a sign stating 5 MPH should be placed on that road. 2. Members are walking their dog through the Campgrounds and on the green area without leashes. People park on the basketball court and let the dogs out to run free. 3. Members are parking on the county road to get to the dog park. In the future, we suggest that boulders be placed all along the boundary line of the property on Avoy road. This will deter anyone from trying to access Hideout property.
Individuals are still going the wrong way on the one-way road. Maybe an additional one-way sign at the end of the loop will stop these individuals.
Entrance driveway –Stones are continually washed into the driveway from Avoy road.
The stones need to be swept up and contained in some fashion. When you try to accelerate out of the driveway onto Avoy some vehicles start skidding which might cause and accident.
The committee suggests a possible use for the unused mailboxes covers at North Gate. The covers could be brought up to the Campgrounds and placed near the building. When affairs are held at the Campgrounds the covers would be used by the groups to help keep them out of the sun or rain. During the car show, this building would have helped many people dry and out of the rain. The covers are small but something is better than nothing.
Reminder: Picnic on Sept 2nd at 4:00 pm. Campers are reminded to bring their covered dish and whatever they want to drink. The Campers will look into renting a port-a-john for that week-end. The cost to be divided among the campers.
John Ellicott motioned that the meeting be adjourned. Cathy Vital second the motion. The meeting was adjourned at 10:30pm
Respectfully submitted,
Joan DiBello, Secretary
June 30, 2006
The meeting was called to order at 9:15am by Don DiBello, co-chairman.
The following were in attendance:
John Ellicott Theresa Mistretta
Jack Shields Terry Shields
Don O’Connor Joan DiBello
Don DiBello
Representing the Hideout:
Ralph Graf
Scott Patterson
Mike Klein
Mike Franquiz
The minutes of the May 26, 2006 meeting were accepted.
Old Business:
Bathrooms – Improvements to date:
new countertops
the inrior was painted
the flooring outside the showers was replaced with no slip, non-splintering wood (safer & easier to maintain).
the exterior was fenced and graded with stone.
Ralph and Scott explained the future plans for the upkeep of the facility.
Lighting- the lighting over the washer door will be fixed. Additional brighter lighting will be installed in each bathroom. New lights to be placed on the outside of the building
Fans – are to be changed. Additional ventilation will be accomplished by putting in a screened vent.
Painting – the ceiling will be painted white.
Exterior – the building will be sided the same as the guard building.
Road – the potholes will be filled in. For the future, possibly tar & chip the road.
Registration – to date – 16 long term and 9 storage have been paid for.
New Business:
Tent site F – we have requested that the Hideout not assign that site to any large Motor Home or trailer. This site is in the middle of a large tenting area. Bi-weekly, recreation has a campfire on this site. With multiple tenting and campfire use damage to the vehicle might easily occur. Ralph said he would look into this matter.
Reminder: The annual Picnic will be September 2nd.
The meeting was adjourned at 10:05am
Respectfully submitted
Joan DiBello
Secretary
Laurel Park Campground Draft Minutes - May 26, 2006
Don DiBello, Co-chairman, called the meeting to order at 9:30am.
The following were in attendance:
Therese Mistretta, Cathy Vitale, Terry Shields,
Barbara Staum, Joan DiBello, Jack Shields,
Joe Staum, Don DiBello
Representing the Hideout: Bryan Parry
The minutes of the September 2, 2005 were accepted.
Old Business: Bathrooms – New countertops and faucets have been installed.
The floor has been painted. Nothing else seems to have been done.
None of the culverts have been restored. The area around the culverts are
deteriorating creating dangerous areas within the campgrounds. The roads within the Campgrounds are also becoming dangerous. The roads need to be addressed with some level of maintenance before an individual gets hurt or a vehicle becomes damaged.
Security – A presence has been noted.
Registration - Bryan will try and maintain a closer relationship with Security in order to maintain a consistency in registration.
Budget - the Committee has not heard from anyone on that Committee to explain how our monies are handled.
Survey - No one on the Committee has heard the results of the Wetlands Survey
New Business:
Current Registration: 14 long term paid, 11 tent sites have been reserved to date for the season. This appears to be above last year’s amount.
Maintenance – The committee was advised that the regular maintenance will now be done by a crew of workers. These workers will go from area to area within the Hideout to mow the lawn and weed-whack the areas. A worker will be in every am & pm during the week-ends to clean the bathrooms. If there is a problem in the Campgrounds, maintenance should now be called.
The meeting was adjourned at 10:15am
Respectfully Submitted
Joan DiBello
Secretary
Laurel Park Campground Meeting
May 28, 2005
Donald DiBello, Chairperson, called the meeting to order at 9:15am.
The following members were in attendance:
Terry Shields Jack Shields
Bertie Keels John Keels
John Ellicott Joan DiBello
Donna Wilson Don DiBello
Theresa Mistretta
Representing the Hideout:
Joe Kozoch, Security
Michael J. Franquiz
Mike Klein
Scott Hall
Old Business:
1. Bathrooms- No water pressure in either bathroom for showers.
Men's room - lights are not working in the shower area
- Second stall on the left - grab bar needs to be replaced
- First stall - bowl is cracked and needs to be replaced. The Committee recommends that if the bowl is to be replaced, an ADA bowl should be used.
Women's room - grab bar be placed in at least one shower.
2. Water spigots leaking - Site 26 - both sides
Site 29 - leaking
Site 32- Stiff - very difficult to turn.
3. Roads - The patching has helped. Hopefully the main road will be paved in October
4. Present Capacity - 12 long term and 4 storage site paid. Scott was questioned about the trailer in storage on the right as you start down the original loop road. Scott stated that to date he has not paid. The Hideout will send him a letter stating our position to pay. If he does not pay, further action will be taken.
5. Security- to date there has been an active presence. Over the winter, John Keels extra trailer was damaged when someone broke into it. The incident was reported to security. John has since sold the trailer.
New Business:
1. Mike Klein will now oversee the maintenance of the Campgrounds. A crew from golf or maintenance will cut the grass in one day. Mike will complete the weed-whacking. Mike will oversee the maintenance and cleanliness of the bathroom.
2. Scott advised us that the Board is having a "land usage" survey done. The survey will enable the Board to know what land is useable and what areas are wetlands. The land usage survey will help decide the future use of the Campgrounds.
3. Picnic - planned for September 3, 2005.
A motion was made at 10:15am by John Ellicott that the meeting be adjourned. Terry Shield second the motion.
Respectfully submitted
Joan DiBello
Secretary
Next meeting July 2, 2005.
Laurel Park Campground Meeting
September 4, 2004
Donald DiBello, chairperson, called the meeting to order at 9:15 am.
The following members were in attendance:
John Ellicott Cathy Vitale
Don DiBello Joan DiBello
Ed Sparkowski Marianne Sparkowski
Al Wilson Donna Wilson
Chris Casey John Keels, Jr.
Representing the Hideout:
Ralph Graf, Community Manager
Joe Kozuel, Head Of Security
Scott Hall, Public Works Manager
Bryan Parry, Campground Manager
The minutes of the August 7, 2004 meeting were accepted.
Before the official meeting started, Ralph and Joe discussed the recent events that had occurred in the Hideout. Ralph and Joe assured the members that the Hideout in conjunction with the Pennsylvania State Police was doing everything possible to calm the situation and prosecute the perpetrators.
OLD BUSINESS:
1. Security - All the lights at the Bathhouse had been shot out. Bryan was in the process of replacing the light fixtures. Joe will increase the amount of patrols depending upon the availability of personnel.
2. Electricity - Next year Bryan will replace the faceplate for any camper who requests them.
3. Bathrooms - Bryan will put in his budget replacement of fixtures along with painting the building.
NEW BUSINESS:
1. Budget Committee- Bryan was again going to the Budget Committee requesting a reduction in charges for guest Campers. The fee of $37.00/day for the weekend is extremely high. Many guests of Hideout members complained about this charge. The prevailing charges at Campgrounds are between $20-$25.00. That fee includes the availability of water, electricity, sewerage, and cable and at some places computer hook-ups. Laurel Park has only water and electricity available on site.
2. Snowmobile - Bryan told us that the Hideout would be allowing the Snowmobiles at the top grass area this winter. The members were only worried about the Security of the Trailers. The committee was worried that members snowmobiling may realize that the Trailers are not being used. They may think that the Trailers and there contents will be an easy target and should be investigated.
3. Roads - Scott has placed Laurel Park on the paving schedule for next year. The roads will be paved and the dangerous culvert areas addressed. The roads are really getting bad. The holes are getting more numerous and deeper making it difficult for cars, trucks and campers to travel them.
4. Election of Officers for 2005-
Co -chairman - Don DiBello and John Ellicott
Secretary - Joan DiBello
5. Meeting dates for 2005 - May 28, 2005, July 2, 2005, August 6, 2005, and September 3, 2005 at 9:15 am.
6. Picnic - to be held today at 4:30 pm.
The meeting was adjourned at 10:15am
Respectfully submitted
Joan DiBello
Secretary
Laurel Park Campground Meeting
August 7, 2004
Donald DiBello, Chairperson, called the meeting to order at 9:15 am.
The following were in attendance:
Don DiBello Jack Shields
Joan DiBello Terry Shields
Kathy Vitale Ed Egan
Representing the Hideout: Michael Franquiz
The minutes of the last meeting was accepted.
OLD BUSINESS:
1. Electric - The committee again request that Bryan replace the faceplates next year on any site that request the different plate.
2. Bathrooms - This facility needs constant maintenance and repair. The age and condition of the facility warrants continual eminence. In the men's room the following needs to be repaired: showerheads, water-mixing valve along with no water pressure.
3. Light outside the building has been fixed.
4. Damage occurred to a storage trailer on the main lower loop. The culprits were apprehended and restitution made.
5. Census - at present approximately 15 long term trailers were paid and 8 storage trailers.
NEW BUSINESS:
1. Picnic - The campground picnic will be held on Saturday, Sept 4th at 5:00pm. As usual, Bryan will supply the grill, ice, hot dogs and hamburgers. Campers will supply cover dishes. Everyone is invited.
The meeting was adjourned at 10:00am.
Laurel Park Campground Meeting
July 3, 2004
Donald DiBello, chairperson, called the meeting to order at 9:15 am.
The following were in attendance:
Jack Shields Donald DiBello
Terry Shields Joan DiBello
Maryanne Sparkowski John Ellicott
Edward J. Sparkowski Domingo Perez
Representing the Hideout:
Scott Hall, Public Works Manager
Bryan Parry, Campground Manager
The minutes of the May 28, 2004 were accepted.
1. Consolidation - To date, everyone has been contacted. Every camper that wants to locate into the consolidated area has been moved. The committee has passed a motion concerning the main tenting area on the lower loop. In the future, no long-range trailer storage will be permitted in this area. All the lower loop grass area will only be used for tent camping.
2. Electric- Bryan will look into the cost of changing the face plates on the electric boxes to match the outlet plugs on the trailers. If the price is reasonable, Bryan will begin changing the outlets for those campers who want it done.
3. Bathrooms-
1. The outside light still needs adjusting. At night, when you
come out of the Bathrooms the light does not go on until you reach the parking lot.
2. Shower Heads need to be replaced.
4. Security - A presence is seen in the campgrounds, but many little incidents have been noted.
1. Mr. Perez - a small rock had been thrown through his window.
2. Ed's "Honey wagon" has been taken.
3. An trailer electric outlet socket has been taken.
5. Current census of paid sites-
13 long-range permanent sites
8 storage sites
6. Campgrounds future - Bryan relayed a message from Ralph Graf, Manager, concerning the future of the Campgrounds. The message was that the current Board has no plans to close the campgrounds. The Board is looking for other uses for some of the area. One plan is to re-locate the Maintenance Dept. to the upper part of the Campgrounds. But no decisions has been made.
7. Budget - Bryan is trying to work on a more equitable time share with
the Ski Hill.
New Business-
1. Water - For the future, Bryan is looking into the possibility of running a new above ground water system. It should not be too expensive and each season the system would be easy to shut off and drain.
2. Picnic- The Campground picnic is scheduled for Saturday, Sept. 4th at 4:oopm.
John Ellicott motioned that the meeting be adjourned and Don DiBello second the motion. The meeting was adjourned at 10:00 am.
Respectfully submitted
Joan DiBello
Secretary
The Hideout Campground Meeting Minutes
(DRAFT) July 5, 2003
Mike Vitale, Co-chairperson, called the meeting to order at 9:15 am. The following were in attendance:
There Mistretta Bertie Keels
Teresa Shields John Keels, Jr
John Shields Mike Vitale
Kathy Vitale John Ellicott
Joan DiBello Domingo Perez
Representing the Hideout:
Scott Hall, Michael J. Franquiz, Joe Kozoch
Old Business:
1. Culverts - at the present time they are just marked for safety. In time, Scott hopes to replace the culverts with new pipe and make the areas around them safe.
2. Bathrooms - the facilities are not holding up. The following needs have to be attended to: ladies room- repair showers on the right.
Cleaning- a thorough cleaning of both bathrooms needs to be done.
Lights on the front of the building-are on during the day and off at night.
Stones along side the entrances must be level. Additional smaller stones needs to be added and all the stones leveled. During the heavy rain the unevenness of the area was dangerous.
3. Electric Boxes at the trailers- once a member has paid for the site the boxes should be left unlocked.
4. Fees - suggestion that they are to be lowered for trailers. At Three Pines Campgrounds a camper can get water, electric and septic for $15.00. The majority believes that the prices should be lowered to the same as those in the area.
5. Trees- again Scott was asked to remove dangerous trees near site 2, site I and site H. Scott asked Mike F. to check out the trees and put ribbons around the trees that appear dangerous.
6. Security- Joe was asked that on weekends security not to lock the gates until 11:00. At times on Friday and Saturday nights they were locked between 9-9:30pm. Joe stated that he would remind the men to do it around the 11:00 shift change.
7. Electric Study - Scott presented the electric study that had been done by an Engineering Consulting Firm. He stated that the Budget Committee would decide what work would be done according to the cost factors. The committee has not had time to look at the Study and its suggestions. At the next committee meeting, many of the members may have questions about the Study,
New Business:
1. Fireworks - The July 4th week-end is a very busy time in the Campgrounds
and the Hideout. Campers are not upset with members shooting off
fireworks, but we were upset that Mike had to take 1-2 hours to clean up
the mess afterwards. Joe stated that we should have called Security and
they would have made the individual clean up after themselves.
John Ellicott motioned that the meeting be adjourned and Kathy Vitale second the motion.
The meeting was adjourned at 10:30am
Respectfully submitted,
Joan DiBello
Secretary
